Thursday, December 13, 2007

Grace vs. Law

So, in my last post I spoke about the message my husband and I listened without going into it too much. I decided I needed a whole post alone to do this! And I just listened to this message again and took the best notes I could to share with you here. I guess I really want people to hear this stuff, and if I can't convince you to listen to the message, at least you can get some of it here! (I still think you should listen to the message for yourself, as I believe faith comes by hearing and hearing the preached Word of God is truly a great way to have revelation come, through the power of the Spirit!)

So get out your Bibles....

Read Colossians 1:3-6


Rob begins by sharing about the series he is doing on grace, that we need to be refreshed and renewed in it all the time. Truth needs to be looked at in a cyclical way.

Renew, Refresh our minds with the reality of what grace is. Grace is in every single area of our lives.

Spiritual Warfare is you being equipped in the Grace of God, by the renewing of your mind.

Okay, here's the meat: Law vs. Grace

Relationship of the World to the law of God
-everyone born into this world is born under the law of God, under the judgement of God. The Law was put in charge to lead us to Christ
-The Christian is no longer accountable to the Law whatsoever!

It is not enough to preach Grace - If you leave the impression that the Christian is somehow under the law just a little bit, or leave a subtle insinuation in people's mind, "yes there's grace, but we do have to keep a few laws." If you do that, it is that little gap that the enemy will take advantage of and will use it to undermine the whole super structure of Grace and the whole Gospel is neutralized.

He says categorically; "We have no Christian duties!" WHAT - you say!
This is hard to hear because of 1500 years of indoctrination or religious control coming from the Dark Ages.
There is nothing you have to do! But when you come under grace and are free from the law, there are a whole lot of want to's that start rising up in the heart.

"I just think some Christians need to go on a diet from everything else and go on a diet of grace for a long time because I believe that many Christians have been propped up by law and external behaviour and modification techniques. That's all their doing and they think that because they behave externally that God's impressed with that. God is naseuos with that stuff, it's called Phariseism. God wants what we do, to come from our heart that is released from guilt and manipulation, that's full of grace!"

God doesn't want people to do things out of a "have to" mentality.

Galatians 1:8&9 - I will write this one out...
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to and different from that which we preached to you, let him be accursed (anathema, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment)! As we said before, so I now say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel different from or contrary to that which you received from us, let him be accursed!" Yikes, this is so huge he repeated himself!

If you come back under law ( a believer in Christ) you are alienated from grace - you will be under condemnation!

Only, BELIEVE in Christ Jesus and you will be saved.

Don't ever put your life under your pastors or leaders(fully), put your life under God and His Word!!!

....now there's a whole section I will skip, as it was difficult to transcribe....

What is the purpose of the Law......???
What the law does not do
-it does not make you righteous
-it does not give you life
-it does not save you
-it does not encourage you
-it does not make you more holy
-it does not help you overcome sin
-it does not strengthen you
What the law does do
-the law is to condemn you, and to crush you
-it is to stir up sin in you and provoke more sin in you
-it is to give you an awareness of wrath over your life
-it is to make you feel constantly unworthy
-it is to oppose you
-it is to curse you with sickness, death, disease, poverty and defeat
-it is to make you aware you are a transgressor

The Law is to show you how insane it is to establish your own righteousness by the keeping of laws(rules, models, morals, codes of conduct....) It is to show you, your need for a Saviour, and the law is put in charge to lead you to the Saviour.

Jesus never condemns you! He never crushes you (or stings you with his words)! He never points out our faults!
Jesus is not counting your sins against you! You are not meant to feel your transgressions!!

Galations 3:10-13, 23 (read these yourself)
..."all who rely on observing the law are under a curse......."

If you want to be under law, you have to keep the whole law! (who can do that!!)

Paul never said "I was saved from this sin or that sin" he said, "I was saved from the Law"

the righteous will live by faith
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse for us...

Romans 10:3 - Christ is the end of the Law.

Okay, so I could go on and on..there's quite a bit more, as well as numerous Scripture passages, however I essentially still think you should listen to this message...now of course you do not have to at all! But I highly recommend that you do! Especially if you are reading this post and you are from my former church... I have the link over in the highly recommended teachings on grace........

2 comments:

The Old Friend said...

Hi Lyd,

Thanks for the posts. Good stuff. We are also listening to Rob up here -- you know where. Sorry you had to run into that post from last night. I have asked her to take it down. All my best to you and hubby and the younger blessings. Don't be strangers.

The Old Friend

lydia joy said...

Hmm, old friend, I am so excited to hear from you and to know you are listening to the life giving messages Rob preaches......!
I am in the mindset that sharing can be helpful in a safe environment....and perhaps help process and grieve a bit ....anyway, we miss you and think of you lots....!!!